OK, just have to put a quick note in here, for documentation if nothing else. JUST finished watching the News Channel 9 Winter Weather outlook...they looked back at El Nino years, that also had cool wet summers and chilly Octobers...as we have. The years? 1965-66 - where there was a big blizzard in '66, AND 2003 was the year I went back to work after maternity leave with Gwynn - Feb of 03, and didn't work a full week until like MAY! Hmmmmmmm, will be interesting to see!